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Moving and naturally scared

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2 posts · ed 2014
So I have always loved New Zealand, its culture, the environment, the lifestyle and the people. I have been working on this move for over 5 years now with final fews steps only shorts months away. I've sold my business, my home and now starting to sell my assets. I am in my 40's single, no children, never been married. I love my family and I am close to them....I live in Canada and have resided here the better part of my life with short work moves to Italy and Georgia. My life has been my work, but now I ready to start a new life.

This is something that I need to do and feel compelled to do but why I am getting cold feet? Why am I feeling scared?

What comes to mind initially is no friends! "But I can make friends?" My age..."am i too old to meet someone, scary proposition getting old alone, but then again same thing could happen here in Canada...... but I would be with family...." What if it doesn't work out? I guess I could always come back but then what, same old same old in Canada.

Seems like everyday I awaken with a new question and little answers.....I look at my single and married friends walking around with frustration and worries fixed to their work, their mortgages and their families with no way out.

Would love to hear from any singles who have moved to New Zealand and their experiences......

I'm doing this for sure.......I guess I just need some experienced advise.

Thanks in advance
Patrick
 
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Hi Patrick,
Welcome to the forum.

What you are experiencing is completely normal.
You are at the precipice of a complete change in lifestyle, so on one hand are very excited at the prospect of migrating to a new country and embracing all it has to offer, but on the other hand really apprehensive as you are leaving all you have known for years, everything familiar, family, friends and jumping with both feet in to something completely unknown. It has happened to all the people who have taken that massive leap of faith. It doesn't work for everybody, but only you can find out if it'll work for you if you make the step and take the leap.

Yes you can make new friends. It may be different for you being single, but I wouldn't say much different. I migrated to NZ with my wife and a 13 month old child back in 2012. Making new friends doesn't feel easy, but it hasn't been that difficult to be honest, mind you I have met a number of people through this forum who are now good friends in both Wellington where we did live for 2.5 years and now here in Tauranga. You just have to put yourself out there and in some strange situations to make new friends. I kind of started getting friendly with new colleagues first and then we met people through the kids playing or at kindergarden and then using the forum when people wanted coffee meets etc. Didn't take us long to make new friends.
You aren't too old to meet new friends. We are in our mid 40's.

For us with a very young family, life here is ideal. Just a much better mix and the work/home balance is outstanding. Employers actually care and want you to have quality time at home with the family. Not sure whether it would be the same for a 40 year old single ? Life here is way way quieter. There's way less people, traffic, choice and opportunities etc etc. It works very well for us, but may not for others.

If it's any consolation, I have a colleague (sat here with him now) who is Canadian, he's been here 10.5 years. He's been single a while although always seems to have a lady friend on the go ;), lives on his own in the country. He did come over with his wife, but they parted and were divorced probably 5 or 6 years ago. He loves the quiet life here.

Regards
 
Hi Patrick,
You are almost in New Zealand...congratulations on your courage and willingness to explore a new country. Like you, I am considering a move and have been investigating for about 9 months as it's a big deal. I have lived abroad before, but was 30! Now early 50's (but think I am still 30--haha) and have the same concerns as you being single and adventurous. I imagine being proactive once there, you will be fine from what I've heard. I hear you about being perpetually single and alone, as in North America our cultures are all about "each man for himself".

I really appreciate what EscapedTonz says about the work/life balance...that is a big, big draw. However, I have great concerns about affordability, and falling into the "work to pay the bills" style we have in North America (well, I can only speak for California where I live...work, work, work...rush, rush, rush), as the salaries are comparatively lower in NZ.

I am curious about how people retire (and eat!) in NZ? Anyone have any thoughts on that?
 
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Congratulations on the big steps so far ... you are certainly on your way!

The first thing I would suggest is to *listen to your gut* and try and figure out what it is telling you. I have posted many times in other threads, suggestions that people take a deep look inside themselves to try and suss out what they hope to achieve from moving so far away from everything they know, and already have. I know it sounds harsh to put it that way, but the older you are, and especially if your life is already happy and settled, you really have to ask yourself: what do I envision in New Zealand being better than what I already have which is already close to friends and family?

Honestly, please make sure you ask that question of yourself, and really dig deep to answer it. Not because New Zealand isn't great, but simply because NZ isn't England, it isn't Canada, it isn't the US, it is its own unique place that may or may not live up to expectations depending on what sort of place and lifestyle you are coming from, and what your current degree of life satisfaction is. Some commenters in here come from areas of high urban density, high prices, some come from lower population, lower prices, but also lower job security, some come from upper middle class, replete with cliche boring suburbia stories... some come from non-western nations that make NZ a paradise in comparison. Every single person will be hanging their personal story and perception of NZ life based on where they came from, the degree of satisfaction the old life held for them, and whether NZ delivered on its promises or not.

So, as I said, it is exceedingly important that you know ahead of time what you are hoping to achieve by moving. If you don't know why you are moving, why would you do it? How well you will land in NZ and settle will depend on factors like: expectations, research, funding, pragmatism, grit, resolve, perspective, people skills, etc.

My experience has been mixed. Unlike Puppy, I find people here to much more reserved and emotionally closed off and cautious than Americans. I legitimately have trouble telling if people are enjoying themselves or not because their facial and body language cues can be pretty flat (compared to the American culture). It's no indictment on kiwi culture, but it can make for a very, very lonely experience when you're the only person among a group showing excitement or happiness over something. There are always exceptions, of course, but as a blanket generalization, it can be hard to connect with others when you can't read them well. So, what I've generally found is, if you're more of a loner personality, or someone who's not really into deeply connected friendships, and prefer more superficial, pub-like visits, and connections ... sports leagues, bbq's and beers, etc, sort of stuff, you'll probably have no problem making connections here so long as you put yourself out there, over and over and over. sports leagues, volunteer somewhere, connect with people at work and invite them out for beer or whatever ... I'm sure you'll find friends. But, if you're like me, and your current friends are more like family, that is probably going to be a tough order to duplicate here. And, your psyche may suffer for it. Just be prepared to weather the ups and downs.

Please don't make the mistake of thinking that the things that concern you in Canada will not be of concern here in New Zealand. That is magical thinking that will get you nowhere but unhappy, really fast. If you're an introvert, you won't suddenly become an extrovert, if you're not sporty, it's doubtful you suddenly will change... yada, yada, yada. These goes back to the original question to ask yourself: what am I hoping to achieve/discover in New Zealand?

I don't know anything about the Canadian cost of living, but compared to California in the US, New Zealand is significantly more expensive in all areas. NZ housing this last year has sured all other nations as *the* most expensive in the world. That is mostly because of Auckland's housing issues, but is now flowing more freely around the rest of the nation as more and more global speculators pop down here to launder their cash in our housing market. And, consider that what you get for the money you pay (for a house), is considerably less in of weather-tightness, uniqueness, and value. Housing supply prices have *rocketed* over the last several years, so please make sure that you have a realistic budget for the lifestyle you intended to lead...which, of course, will depend on where you are planning on moving to.
I've found that prices *for everything* on the South Island tend to all run about the same, no matter where you are, though in tourist spots like Lake Tekapo, Queenstown, etc, food, fuel, etc are all higher. On average, most things are minimum 25% more expensive than in California, but that has been climbing higher over the last two years here in town.
We survive fine on one salary in our household, a decent salary of $90k, and we have one full time teen and my husband's teen from another marriage is with us part-time as well. We survive fine by budgeting fairly strictly (much stricter than I ever did in California), and doing away with things that are common in California like regular spontaneous night out for dinner. Here, a small take-out meal is about $15, and is basically a plastic square take-away of Indian food, or similar. A nice sit down meal at a restaurant worth spending money at will set you back $50 per person. So, yes, things Americans take for granted like casual dining .... casual dining isn't the same sort of cheap thing in NZ that it is in North America... so, you dial back on stuff like that, and learn to live with what you have. It's no biggie, but can be an adjustment.

Lastly, you do need to think about what your plan is if you *don't* want to stay. The biggest part of moving when older (I was 40), is that once you have left your country of origin, that little niche you carved out closes up behind you. I always suggest to people that they not sell their home and belongings until they have lived in NZ for a year, that way they can slip back into some semblance of their prior life if it turns out that NZ doesn't work out for them.
I think I will assume from your love of all things NZ that you have already spent considerable time here ...

My post isn't meant to persuade or dissuade you one way or the other, only to make sure that you have asked yourself the right questions, and have the right perspective on what your goal in moving is.

Best of luck.
 
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